Bernie Sanders: Larry Ellison, the second richest person on Earth, who is a major investor in AI, predicts an AI powered surveillance state is coming where "citizens will be on their best behavior because we are constantly recording and reporting everything that is going on." pic.twitter.com/PhHYPSvgmh
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Jimmy welcomes back to the show investigative journalist and author Whitney Webb to discuss her explosive new investigation revealing how billionaire Leslie Wexner and Jeffrey Epstein built a corporate welfare state in Ohio, creating a model of “public-private partnerships” that privatized government, funneled billions in taxpayer money to big tech data centers, and is now driving up electricity bills while gutting public schools and healthcare.
Webb details how Wexner created a de facto private government in his hometown of New Albany, Ohio, which evolved into Jobs Ohio—a private corporation that controls the state’s liquor tax revenue with zero public accountability—and has become the blueprint for a techno-feudal state promoted by the “dark enlightenment” figures like Peter Thiel and JD Vance.
She warns that Ohio is a petri dish for a nationwide takeover, where data centers are replacing public infrastructure, digital IDs are mandatory, and federal legislation is stripping local governments of the power to resist.
Webb also dissects the coordinated effort by Compact Magazine, Peter Thiel, and Soros-funded outlets to dismiss the Epstein scandal, and raises concerns about Joe Kent’s emergence as a potential controlled opposition figure designed to manufacture a “domestic terrorist” profile the government can later use against anti-war populists.