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Two headline-grabbing events took place Friday in the race for president. Republican Donald Trump sat down for a three-hour interview with popular podcast host Joe Rogan. And Vice President Kamala Harris held the largest event of her campaign, a massive rally in Houston featuring hometown hero Beyoncé and attended by an estimated 30,000 people.

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If the goals of these two events were simply to generate media coverage, then it was just about a tie. But each campaign was seeking to increase vote turnout in this close election. Given those goals, the Harris-Beyoncé rally will likely go down as a bigger winner than the Trump-Rogan interview. — MSNBC — Archive

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Youtube — 43.5M

Joe Rogan’s X — 20M

Elon’s X — 43M

This doesn’t include even one download on Spotify, Apple, or any other podcast platform.